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A problem I want to address.

Post by PaladinKOSP on Tue Jun 10, 2014 8:02 pm

So recently, I have noticed some rape on the server lately. I mean, a lot of rape. Basically every female character I talked to has been rape. One of them was even raped about 12 times. Although I didn't really care at first, it's starting to get to the point where it's not being funny. At all. That's why I want someone to do something about it. Can someone please, please, PLEASE put some restrictions on this.

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Post by Kookie on Tue Jun 10, 2014 9:07 pm

I'm pretty sure there is already a rule in place where if someone wants to rape you, and you OOCly don't want to be raped, the rape can't happen. Rape has to be agreed on by both parties.
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Post by ㅤㅤ on Tue Jun 10, 2014 9:13 pm

I've actually not seen that much rapeRP. You might be confusing Relationship and/or sexRP with rapeRP. The only rapeRP I've seen was from a minge, who doesn't react to /me's. I really haven't seen this problem.
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Re: A problem I want to address.

Post by Duspende on Tue Jun 10, 2014 9:25 pm

I don't think he's talking about actualy RapeRP, but female characters having a backstory of rape.
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Re: A problem I want to address.

Post by PaladinKOSP on Tue Jun 10, 2014 9:29 pm

Duspende wrote:I don't think he's talking about actualy RapeRP, but female characters having a backstory of rape.

Yep, there's too many people with rape as their backstory. On the other hand, I do know of that rule if you don't want to be OOCly raped, you ignore it. But what's with everyone just agreeing it it all of the sudden?

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Re: A problem I want to address.

Post by Nugget and Skull on Tue Jun 10, 2014 11:58 pm

It's a horrible deed, but it is made infinitely worse that no one seems to know how basic human psychology works. My CWU character was killed and as the attackers finished pounding his head into the ground with a frying pan, I did an /it of blood pooling around him and him giving a pathetic gurgle before letting out his last breath. Their reaction was a casual 'ew'. I asked OOCly asked if their characters were sociopaths and the response was 'no, they're good guys'. People have no clue how long lasting impacts work or even immediate reactions and seem to think that since it's RP, their characters can resist all psychological and emotional impacts because 'lolwebuls'. Something needs to be done and I'm seriously considering a guide discussing psychology of a human under stressful situations. I mean, do people seriously lack empathy to the point where they negate it from their characters at this point?
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Re: A problem I want to address.

Post by Sly775 on Wed Jun 11, 2014 2:00 am

I hate RapeRP and im sorry if it offends people. I know someone that was kiddnapped and raped IRL and I don't think it is something that should be polluting our servers RP. You wouldn't do something to remind people of bad memories like 9/11RP would you? Probably no, so avoid RapeRP please.
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Re: A problem I want to address.

Post by Duspende on Wed Jun 11, 2014 11:05 am

Sly775 wrote:I hate RapeRP and im sorry if it offends people. I know someone that was kiddnapped and raped IRL and I don't think it is something that should be polluting our servers RP. You wouldn't do something to remind people of bad memories like 9/11RP would you? Probably no, so avoid RapeRP please.

Not to be that guy or anything, but I think you're overreacting.

My ex-girlfriend was raped when she was 8 on a trip to Spain in a dressing room.

If you don't like it, that's alright. But we can't all just stop talking about it and not having it happen.
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People don't understand that if you were raped, it's not something you just tell everybody. It is the most humiliating, undignifying and traumatic thing that can possibly happen to a woman.

Especially the women who climax during the assault, may never forgive themselves or their bodies for it, and put all the blame on themselves.

I don't see the need for an IC past of being raped. There is literally ZERO reason to have such a past, unless you properly RP being distrustful of men and having serious intimacy issues. But people don't do this, because to everybody there is only ever one side to the roleplay, and that is the upside.

As Nugget says, everybody are apparently psychopaths with no remorse.

Let me put this into perspective; On a previous server where me and my Co-Owner Whoop were playing, me as a resistance leader and him as a regular female citizen who had a gun to defend herself against some of the nasty ass people we had at the time, came into a dispute with a CCA unit and it was either her going to die or the CCA unit.

She hesitantly shot the unit, dropped the gun and sat down in the corner next to the body, completely silent and started hyperventilating. She just killed somebody for the first time... Even if it was a unit. I had to show up and help her up and escort her out of the area before backup came. It took an OOC month, before that character was somewhat over that incident.

"Killing somebody else never gets easier, you just learn to live with it."
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Post by Nugget and Skull on Wed Jun 11, 2014 12:09 pm

The thing about the human mind is that we evolved as social creatures. There were ramifications for killing someone in a village or tribe as they may very well could have been the person bringing in a lot of the food. Instinct became that once you kill someone, you feel insane guilt (literally conflicting emotions: "he was about to kill me!... but did he deserve to die?") and most humans will feel sick afterwards, if not flat out succumb to shock. It's not easy to kill a human and to do so with cold efficacy means they are a psychopath, a sociopath, a combination of the former, or someone who has had training to overcome their natural reaction to murder or killing (which is required for dedicated military service as and even then, soldiers more often than not shoot to miss).

On Onyx, I have a DvL who was forced to amputate his own son early into his career. He has been brainwashed to the point of loyalty, but guilt still pulls at him. A medical unit I have basically breaks down with each amputation, often citing the irony of the oath of being a doctor being violated by his position in the MPF. I don't ask for complex characters with complex motivations, but I do ask characters at least act human.

On the topic of rape, that means someone is succumbing to a violent desire for sex. Very few humans see rape as viable and those that do try to justify their actions with 'they were asking for it', 'they deserved it', or 'they weren't going to put out normally'. Basically, they try to trivialize it in such a way that they aren't the bad guys, clearly the victims are. In some cases it is meant to sate a sexual desire or to relieve sexual tension (the suppression field being active for so long and the fact sex is illegal unless approved is basically the catalyst for this), but there are also others that seek to use it as a method of control or domination. These people lack empathy and even if they eventually do come to regret their actions, very few ever regret them because of what happened to their victim and instead regret them due to what will be happening to themselves. The fact so many players want to rape others and then certain members basically advertise that it has happened like it's a trophy or an award (especially when they keep count) shows a clear disconnect from how the human mind works. There needs to be a serious discussion on this visible to as many players as possible, especially those that are so willing to give their characters as victims but then totally refuse to change their action in any way.
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Re: A problem I want to address.

Post by ㅤㅤ on Wed Jun 11, 2014 6:05 pm

A new student in my school left his last school because one of the students in his class got raped. It is serious and gives a lasting impression to the person. Most of the people that have a background of getting raped don't show it. Either it be shyness, avoiding people, or being paranoid altogether. Most of them do not RP it right.
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Re: A problem I want to address.

Post by Spodermen on Wed Jun 11, 2014 6:34 pm

If we are going to allow IC rapes, we should make the punishment amputation like it should be in real life.
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Re: A problem I want to address.

Post by Duspende on Wed Jun 11, 2014 7:05 pm

Spodermen wrote:If we are going to allow IC rapes, we should make the punishment amputation like it should be in real life.

How about we make it torture.
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Re: A problem I want to address.

Post by Spodermen on Wed Jun 11, 2014 7:19 pm

Torture THEN amputation.
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