These insane units.

Alright, recently I've seen a string of insane or mentally unfit units. I wont say any names but most of them being in the APEX division. Is this something that has been going on a long time and I just haven't noticed?
I know KING supports their torture but they are actually insane. Acting like maniacs even admitting it. One of them said directly to me that they enjoy torturing their 'experiments' If anything Sheeplie should temporarily give someone his divisional position so someone can set these units straight. Someone more active. This is may just be me but someone needs to either set them straight or I will do it myself.

I assume you're talking about APEX 03. Personally I'm am fine with how they role play their character. It shows how fucked up some people can become with power. For example the nazis who I compare the combine too the most obviously had messed up crazy people in high ranking positions and the regime did nothing to stop them.

Yes their role play is unorthodox but it's unique and offers a different look at how fucked up the combine really are. So I support crazy.

The thing is, there is a very fine line between being "sadistic" and outright insane. If you are insane, you're 10-103M.

But I think the thing is that everybody is trying to suck up to KING right now, and they think KING condones torture for the sake of torture. That is not the case.

I have noticed a lot going around about Units being allowed to 'experiment' which is usually followed by several jokes about losing ones virginity or the like. I think it's interesting that it can go on as it does, but a leash should be put on it to an extent.

Just like in pen and paper RPG's, there is a fine line between roleplaying uniquely and roleplaying ridiculously. I think that if the 'experiments' go on to become lobotomized, brainwashed to only love the union (without a mechanical device instilling that idea such as a chip in the thigh) or just flat out mutilation of innocent civilians, ICly something would need to be done by the MPF high authority and OOCly the player would need to be talked to about roleplaying within the bounds of an MPF unit properly.

APEX isn't supposed to do "rogue" experiments with Citizens. They need permission for that.

And no, they wont get permission to blatantly mutilate and disgure Citizens just for the sake of it.

I agree and pardon my language but this is bullshit. I am a jury and my char is less sadistic than most APEX's! They are getting too much freedom! I have even had APEX's take criminals away before I can interogate them and they start doing it themselves. APEX's found doing this should be handled with swift action!

One could consider Insanity to be the basis of why the living fuck anyone would do a job that daily you walk outside and beat the living fuck out of Citizens. We need to either crack down on Units being scary or, oh my god, let Citizens survive their lives! You have to remember your talking about the Combine- all we're here for is to use you as slaves, and take the resources from Earth. I'm sorry but I think your argument is invalid.

From now on, KING doesn't have time to re-educate. It's amputation right off the bat.

In regards to you, Bourneco; It's not insanity. In the Half-Life 2 Lore, if you sign up as CCA your family are given more privileges than the normal Citizen. So you're basically doing it to save yourself and your family.

Also; Insanity and Psychopathy isn't the same. Insanity is pouring boiling sugar on your own face, psychopathy is pouring it on your best friend.

I've seen none of this with my 085 char, but if I see them doing horrendous unauthorized things, I will stop them. It's completely fine if they are roleplaying it correctly, but they might have to face some ic situations if they continue.

I honestly just want to know if things are authorized. If I see valid proof that they are then I'm fine with it. But still, the experiments part urks me in the APEX division since we also are technological, and I have not seen much of that nature happen via rp. Much less-what are the points of the experiments? I see no recorded reports or anything, or even what the purpose of them besides torturing people.

I've asked for reports. I guess the 'experiments' don't deserve them. *If you can't make a report out of a experiment, you shouldn't be doing said experiment.

<:STRYDER:> wrote:I've asked for reports. I guess the 'experiments' don't deserve them. *If you can't make a report out of a experiment, you shouldn't be doing said experiment.

EXACTLY! Experiments are called 'experiments' for a reason "a scientific procedure undertaken to make a discovery, test a hypothesis, or demonstrate a known fact", but if what they are doing is considered by them as 'experiments' then they should make a report to back it up, such as their findings, what they did, the Units at the sight of the tests, etc. But- I highly doubt this will come to play.

Then so be it, I can't continue doing them, but this does not mean my Sociopathic and Sadistic tendencies will stop.

*COUGH* LACK OF EMOTION RP. SHOVING A MEAT HOOK UP A GUY'S ASS WHILE HE BEGS FOR MERCY AT 04 *COUGH*.

I emotion RP all the time. My character is the typical lore CCA officer: I'm in it for the food. When I'm not doing anything important (Sweeping, etc.) or in front of high command, I'm casual. I make small talk with other units. I enjoy talking about my past. I talk about life with them (if they listen, some do, some don't.). I contemplate our decision to join the CCA. This may be a pretty bad example, but I'm like one of those units from Machinima's "Civil Protection". Notice how casual they are.

Now, I'm not saying go around being like "You killed a guy? Huh. Don't do it again. Bye." Do your job correctly. Just...don't be so robotic.

Kookie wrote:*COUGH* LACK OF EMOTION RP. SHOVING A MEAT HOOK UP A GUY'S ASS WHILE HE BEGS FOR MERCY AT 04 *COUGH*.

I emotion RP all the time. My character is the typical lore CCA officer: I'm in it for the food. When I'm not doing anything important (Sweeping, etc.) or in front of high command, I'm casual. I make small talk with other units. I enjoy talking about my past. I talk about life with them (if they listen, some do, some don't.). I contemplate our decision to join the CCA. This may be a pretty bad example, but I'm like one of those units from Machinima's "Civil Protection". Notice how casual they are.

Now, I'm not saying go around being like "You killed a guy? Huh. Don't do it again. Bye." Do your job correctly. Just...don't be so robotic.

Exact;y. CP's can be hardasses to citizens if they know how to do it properly. There are far too many units who think being sadistic is cool or unique, even though it is a massive trend on every HL2RP server right now. It needs to stop so the MPF can go back to how it should be.

Kookie-but I'm like one of those units from Machinima's "Civil Protection".

Not machinima's. Oh god, It's Ross Scott's. Never make that mistake

Thank you for posting this, it pisses me off seing this and I see it all the time, even though I am not active on the server much anymore, but when I was i'd see 04's torturing citizens for random punishments and noncompliance...

Also, if there EVER was a need for this kind of thing (Which there never will be) why the fuck is the APEX division doing it? They run the city technologically. If you were to do an experiment, which you probably would do, you'd do something along the lines of testing out a new type of light weight bullet proof mask. Shoving a meat hook up a guy's ass and choking him with a kidney has nothing to do with technology whatsoever. "Let me see if shoving this up here hurts...OH YES! IT DOES! MY HYPOTHESIS WAS CORRECT". Even if we did need to do experiments on living beings, they'd be EXPERIMENTS. AKA; Testing a new pain relieving drug on someone. Your experiments have no use to them.